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Re: gettingstarted Digest, Vol 4, Issue 24

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Subject: Re: gettingstarted Digest, Vol 4, Issue 24
From: "Amy Barnes" <rubberant006 at hotmail dot com>
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2004 18:40:24 -0400
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Well, for starters, I learned to use "App" instead of "Me" when writing code
to change the cursor's appearance in Windows :^)

I'm on a Windo$ box, too.   So there were times, and still are times where I
feel a bit frustrated.  But.  I am a complete newbie.  I never could
understand a whit of C or C++ except for cout and cin <grins>

AmyE


> First a little background:
>
> I am newbie to REALBasic from the Windows/Visual Basic world.  I was never
a
> big fan of BASIC, I was a C programmer in my early days.  As time went on
I
> got into the xBase family of languages because C wasn't very productive.
> With the onset of Windows I returned to the C/C++ world because there was
no
> real practical xBase implementation for Windows.  Once again I felt the
pain
> of low productivity with C++ and stumbled upon Visual Basic.  For a number
> of years VB has sufficed for my development needs but with the advent of
the
> whole .NET language path at Microsoft I found myself re-evaluating
languages
> again.  Enter REALBasic.  At a glance REALBasic seems to be the ultimate
> BASIC.  It's a fairly standard (abet aged) implementation of the BASIC
> language but it has the clear advantage of being able to compile to the
> three major OS platforms (Windows, Mac and Linux).  Coupled with an IDE,
> professional support options and an establish community it seemed almost
too
> good to be true.  It is too good to be true.
>
> I'm currently trying a real 'work' project and I'm finding many
weaknesses.
> I'm sure many of these weaknesses are as a result of my ignorance but
there
> seems to be no organized forum to air these issues and get useful
guidance.
> And thus I am here.
>
> My questions/observations:
>
> Is there a forum to address WINDOWS issues?  I know REALBasic has been
> primarily a Mac platform until fairly recently but 90% if the computer
> market is a Windows world and there I am forced to work.
>
> Is there a WINDOWS help file for the system documentation/help?  The help
> file in the IDE is crude and poorly indexed and cross-referenced.  Tiny
> fonts and a total lack of practical search capabilities really make the
> product seem cruder than it deserves.
>
> Has anyone figured out how to disconnect the IDE from the compiler/linker
to
> allow use of an alternate IDE/editor?  Compared to VB the IDE is crude and
> socially unacceptable.  VB is FAR from being a great IDE but it is
> reasonably civilized. Once again REALBasic comes off as being cruder than
it
> likely deserves.
>
> Is there WINDOWS-centric documentation/books available for REALBasic?
I've
> started reading REALbasic: The Definitive Guide but it's not as useful as
it
> could be as much is Mac-centric.  I'm finding that fairly basic Windows
> tasks don't seem to be addressed in REALBasic (once again its likely
> ignorance).
>
> If this is the wrong arena please accept my apologies.
>
> -Scott.
>
> Scott Sturgeon
> WebConnected International, Inc.
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