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RE: Whitout 4.5 serial numbers, what I make?

To: REALbasic Betas <realbasic-betas at lists dot realsoftware dot com>
Subject: RE: Whitout 4.5 serial numbers, what I make?
From: Anders Hellström <anders at hellstrom dot org>
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 10:29:39 +0200
Cc: "'Guy Jones'" <guy dot jones at novaint dot com>, "Lynn Fredricks" <fci at europa dot com>
At 17.57 -0700 02-06-28, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
>Regarding the VAT, I think you are going to find that US companies have
>little sympathy and a lot of opinion. Most US states have state sales
>tax, but interstate orders often obliviate that concern. My own state of
>Oregon has no sales tax. If our politicians do something we don?t like,
>we collect signatures, get initiatives on the ballot and vote changes
>into law -- ourselves. A sales tax has been voted down in Oregon at
>least nine times. I don?t believe buying abroad alleviates you from your
>obligation to pay VAT to the state -- at least that's the situation in
>some countries. If that is the case in Sweden, then you'd have to pay
>your 25% anyway.

Yes, that's not what I said. I said that since Nova's prices are Higher, I need 
to pay More VAT when purchasing through them than I would have if I purchased 
it through RS.


> > I think we as customers should be able to choose on our own
>> who we wish to purchase from, REALsoftware is trying their
>> best to stop us from doing that.
>
>In fact you can in the EU. REAL *itself* just wont sell licenses into
>your country. If you arent happy with Nova, shop around. RB is sold
>throughout Europe. You can buy it from any reseller.

As I understand it, everybody who resells it would get it from Nova or one of 
the other distributors. I know of one company in Sweden that sold RB, but I 
just checked their website and the latest catalog and it's not there anymore. 
(InWarehouse)

Let's see what other distributors there are in Europe:

Netherlands: Their website is in Dutch which I don't speak. I wasn't able to 
find anything about RB there.

Italy: Don't speak Italian either, but it wasn't hard to find RB. They charge 
¤140 for the standard version and ¤415 for Pro.

Greece: Same thing with Greece... They seem to charge ¤169.28 for Standard and 
¤419.26 for Pro, but since I don't understand what it says it might be with CD 
and/or Manuals.

Germany: Without speaking German either, they seem to charge ¤130 and ¤380.

France: Now this was a though one. ¤119 and ¤359 I think.

Mind telling me what companies, other than the distributors, are selling RB? 
And wouldn't their prices most likely be even higher than the distributors?


As Lynn said, Euro and USD have close to the same value right now, 1 USD = 
1.00918 EUR.


(And for those of you who now wonder if I speak any languages at all, I speak 
Swedish, English and couple of programming languages only :-)


--
Anders Hellström,
MacShed


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