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Re: "You're not going to learn how to program in BASIC any more"

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Subject: Re: "You're not going to learn how to program in BASIC any more"
From: Alex Lindsay <alindsay at mac dot com>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 08:16:13 -0500
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I have always thought that the more flexible and forgiving the syntax, the better the language is for learning. I also believe that flexible syntax is often a bane as the complexity of a project increases, especially when more than one developer works on the project.

I have also thought that one of the more intuitive languages out there is AppleScript. Almost anyone reading AppleScript for the first time can understand it. Unfortunate, AppleScript is used mostly for automating other applications, and how those applications respond often muddies the waters!

I think that AppleScript would make a great teaching language if the proper context and IDE were provided.


Thank you,

Alex Lindsay
On Sep 30, 2005, at 12:06 AM, R Charles Flickinger wrote:


Hi

I absolutely believe learning a real programming language is the proper
aproach.

I find this an interesting statement, as many "programmers" in the latter '80s did not consider Apple's HyperCard to be a "real programming" language. Yet school-age children were "programming" all kinds of software solutions with HyperCard that caught the attention of the adults.

I have Computer Chronicles videos that offer objective proof.

I won't say RB is so tough to grasp it is beyond a school kid's ability to understand, but I have not seen any evidence it has inspired children of any age as much as Apple's HyperCard did.

Has RB made it to Computer Chronicles? Demoed by school kids? God forbid, adults might never consider using it!! "Software for Kids" is a label no one wants on their product, yet many will advert at one time or another that their product is great for kids to learn on.

I believe the environment still exists today; programmers DO NOT want to see this technology accessible to run-of-the-mill society, and probably for many valid and invalid reasons. HyperCard made the technology insanely accessible, and programmers will never let that happen ever again.

Everything I learned about programming, using HyperCard, applied to when I learned JavaScript, which in turn applied to what I learned using REALbasic. I will say that had I had the knowledge these technologies provided for me, I might not have figured out REALbasic in as short a time, and solo to boot.

Yours truly

R Charles Flickinger
Corona Developer:  http://www.designersdomain.com/corona
Daktari Developer:  http://www.designersdomain.com/daktari

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