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Re: Algorithm for generating memorable passwords?

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Subject: Re: Algorithm for generating memorable passwords?
From: Norman Palardy <npalardy at great-white-software dot com>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 01:24:41 -0600
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On 29-Jun-07, at 12:26 AM, Marc Zeedar wrote:

> If you want *memorable* passwords, that is passwords that people can
> actually remember without having to write them down, the best system
> I've heard of is to use a password phrase. Like "The fat fox ran 3
> miles and died." Then you take the first letter of each word to make
> the password: Tffr3mad
> This creates pretty secure passwords, but the person remembers the
> phrase, not the gibberish letters.

I've used that system before as well
Works pretty good

But, the case I mentioned the users had no control of passwords.
The system assigned them at and refreshed them at periods that varied  
>from 30 - 60 days and your old password only worked 2 more times then  
the new one had to be used.
Quite draconian.
But it prevented people from doing something I saw a lot of people do  
on Vax systems where passwords were set to expire.
They'd simply use a base password and add a digit to the end (ie/ 
password1) and next month when it expired increment the digit so  
password1 became password2.
Since a lot of system would only refuse to let you reuse a password  
in 12 months you never had to have more than a few of them with  
digits at the end.

Users can overcome any system you put in place to increase security :)
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How do I know that my daemonized ConsoleApplication is quitting  
because of a system shutdown ?

-Eric.
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