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Re: FYI: Bindings deprecated

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Subject: Re: FYI: Bindings deprecated
From: David Glass <dglass at graymattercomputing dot com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:07:42 -0700
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On Sep 19, 2007, at 3:49 PM, joe at strout dot net wrote:

> On Sep 19, 2007, at 22:32 UTC, David Glass wrote:
>
>> This bites me in a big way, and it is made more troublesome by the
>> fact that currently there's no way to delete existing bindings
>> without saving the project as XML and manually deleting them.  Bleah.
>
> The "List Bindings" dialog doesn't work anymore?
>

In 7r4 it shows up, and lists the bindings, but the Delete button  
doesn't enable when there is a selection in the listbox because ...  
bindings are broken in 7r4. :)

>> <semi rant>
>> Is it just me or has communication from RS taken a significant turn
>> down recently?  No communication about the dropping of MySQL support,
>> the 'abandoning' of RB3D, and now bindings seem to be making an quiet
>> exit.
>>
>> Seems kind of strange to me.
>> </semi rant>
>
> I tend to agree.  I think they've moved their communication to the
> forums, which would be fine if forums didn't suck so much.  :)  Except
> for William, who (to be fair) did post his thoughts about Rb3D here.
>
>

Unfortunately, they really haven't moved their communication to the  
forums.  By 'communication' I mean official-down-from-the-mount  
communication from RS.  There haven't been any sort of announcement  
posts detailing any of this, it just comes up in random threads as RS  
employees post.

Similar stuff happened on this list when it was monitored by RS  
employees (remember those days? ;) ), but it didn't replace official  
announcements and release notes.

-- 
David Glass - Gray Matter Computing
graymattercomputing.com
559-303-4915


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-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: joe at strout dot net 
> > Is it just me or has communication from RS taken a significant turn 
> > down recently? No communication about the dropping of MySQL support, 
> > the 'abandoning' of RB3D, and now bindings seem to be making an quiet 
> > exit. 
> > 
> > Seems kind of strange to me. 
> > 
> 
> I tend to agree. I think they've moved their communication to the 
> forums, which would be fine if forums didn't suck so much. :) Except 
> for William, who (to be fair) did post his thoughts about Rb3D here. 
But in both cases it should have been "officially" stated AT LEAST in the 
release notes as neither posts here nor on forum (unless in the announcement 
section)  are "official" notifications to customers. I also suspect many look 
at neither - and those things certainly can affect users making decisions about 
their work. 

And that callouness bothers me even though the deprecation does not. Over the 
years RS built up a lot of good will with loyal customers despite alot of bugs 
becauseof their openness ... This type of  thing could eventual distroy that.
-Karen
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