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Re: Solution to MoviePlayer crash on XP

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Subject: Re: Solution to MoviePlayer crash on XP
From: Joe Huber <joehuber at talasoft dot com>
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:43:49 -0800
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Hi Dave

Glad to hear this was useful info. I was pulling my hair out for 
quite a while as I was tracking this down. Unfortunately none of my 
test systems showed the crash so it was very hard to isolate until I 
bought a comparable system.

I should also mention that the workaround is to install a driver from 
their 9x.yy versions. I used the 97.78 version (May 2007) and it has 
been working fine with our Nvidia 8800 GTS video card which had been 
crashing consistently with their released 163.75 and the beta 169.09 
versions.

   http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_97.78_2.html

Hope this helps,
Joe


At 9:54 AM -0800 11/30/07, Dave Wooldridge wrote:
>Ack!  :-(   Thanks for sharing Joe!  That is DEFINITELY good to know for us
>developers who use the MoviePlayer control cross-platform.
>
>Regards,
>Dave Wooldridge
>Electric Butterfly
>http://www.ebutterfly.com
>
>-------------------------------------
>
>on 11/29/07 7:29 PM, Joe Huber wrote:
>
>>  Some of my XP users have recently been reporting crashes when they
>>  opened a particular window in my app. After lots of testing, and even
>>  buying a new XP system of similar configuration, I've been able to
>>  isolate the problem and wanted to share the cause and add it to the
>>  archives.
>>
>>  Opening any window which contains a QuickTime based MoviePlayer
>>  control will immediately crash if the app is running on an XP system
>>  that has an Nvidia graphics card and any of their recent drivers,
>>  since May 2007.
>>
>>  This crash is very widespread even beyond RB apps and affects the
>>  QuickTime plugin for web browsers. Interestingly the COM based
>>  QuickTime Player does not crash on those same systems. But Apple's
>>  own QTController sample code crashes in the same way when playing
>>  even just the Sample.mov file.
>>
>>  There are several long threads about this on the Nvidia forums:
>>
>>  http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t37997.html
>>  http://forums.nvidia.com/lofiversion/index.php?t42057.html
>>
>>  The best solution seems to be installing an older version of the
>>  Nvidia driver, until either Nvidia or Apple provides an update to
>>  solve this problem. All of Nvidia's 1xx.yy series drivers seem to be
>>  problematic including the released 163.75 and the beta 169.09
>>  versions.
>>
>>  So anyone who uses RB's Movie Player on Windows should be aware of
>>  this crashing problem and consider advising their XP users with
>>  Nvidia cards to not upgrade their drivers, or even to downgrade them
>>  if they experience the crashing.
>>
>>  Hope this helps,
>>  Joe Huber
>
>
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