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Subject: Re: [OT] Why "Computer Science" - was Re: Packed Encoding Rules
From: William Squires <wsquires at satx dot rr dot com>
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:28:59 -0600
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On Feb 28, 2008, at 6:35 PM, Terry Ford wrote:

> I had a Permit to operate a Yard Diesel-Electric Locomotive which is
> commonly referred to as a  "Locomotive Engineer". But there is no
> mention of the word Engineer. It is simply Operator.
>
   And in some countries, they'd be called the 'driver' (or fuhrer in  
Germany, not to be confused with that crazy #%!%$ Hitler) as well.  
Also, a 'locomotive engineer' in the US that was normally confined to  
a yard was also known as a 'hostler', too, and the (typically small)  
yard engine was known as a 'goat'.

> A Locomotive Engineer would be a professional who designs these
> machines.
>
   Except in the US, where he or she would be a Mechanical Engineer  
(which would also cover some stuff that falls within the realm of  
Civil Engineering, too, like bridges, trestles, tunnels, track- 
laying, surveying, etc...) Just my theory, but I think the term  
"locomotive engineer" came from the early days of (American)  
railroading when the "engineer" was not only expected to 'drive' the  
engine, but to re-rail it (should it derail), 'feed' it (coal/oil/ 
wood and water), and even fix it or get it off the tracks so the next  
train could pass! (or relegate these tasks to the poor fireman if  
present!) After all, they were pretty much out in the boondocks  
(frontier), so you couldn't just pick up a phone, and say "Hey, guys,  
bring a crane - my engine broke down!" You were lucky if you were in  
range of a working telegraph! Oh, and there were the Native Americans  
to deal with, too. Oh, and Jesse James. :)
   But this is all way OT!


P.S. This from a model railroader with a historical interest in North  
American railroading. I make no claim that the info is 100% accurate;  
just humorous and informative :)

> Terry
>
> (PS. I live in the same country as Norman)
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2008, at 4:18 PM, John Jobe wrote:
>
>> So you are saying where you live (I have no idea where that is.) I
>> could graduate with a degree in Software Engineering (I have.), but I
>> could not call myself a software engineer unless I join a local
>> society?  Is this society like a workers union (collective bargaining
>> unit) or professional organization like ACM or IEEE?  What would be
>> the requirements to join?  BTW where are you?  I'm betting outside  
>> the
>> US, but otherwise would have no leaning in any special direction.
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Norman Palardy wrote:
>>>
>>> Just an FYI that there are some jurisdictions (like where I live)
>>> where you legally cannot call your self an "Engineer" of any kind
>>> unless you are a member of the local Professional Engineers society
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