on 5/24/05 10:47 PM, Brendan Murphy at bmurf at comcast dot net wrote:
> In this case, proprietary means someone owns the copyrights to the
> tool and chooses to not share it (open source it) with others in
> order to maintain an advantage. You can choose to support Bjorn's
> format, but he is not thinking of you when he changes it. He is
> thinking of his own needs and plans point of view. This is what
> people in business do. To be frank, Bjorn has threatened in the
> past to completely leave the REALbasic market. Who is to say he
> will not threaten this again in the future and carry out such a
> thing? This past behavior always hangs as a distant looming cloud
> on the future availability of the tool.
The only point you are making here is that you want a tool become open
sourced, and you use an argumentation that is not sound just because you
don't like a certain behavior? What if someone comes to die?
>
> I am sorry you feel you can't follow what I am saying, but my
> words are not difficut follow. There needs to be a more formalized
> way to manage plugins. The RBX format itself does not provide
> this, thus Bjorn's plugin tool exists. It fills this need. Ask
> yourself why Bjorn created what he did and why and you will see my
> point.
Yes it fills this need, and he made it years ago, and I am using it for
years as well, and hope to use it for years to come. I am grateful to that,
and if it is closed then so be it, most likely because major work went into
it, but it is free.
>
> What William suggested is inadequate as a solution. So what do we
> have? Bjorn has one way, you do it another way, and I'll have to
> come up with a different way in order to accomplish the need of
> managing the plugin sets for the developers that work for me. In
> the case of the plugin tool like Bjorn's, it makes little sense
> since there is no financial gain for it.
You're wrong, he might have used a technology that gives him an edge. So
have I managed to create a different technology with certain plugins, but I
would never ever open source it, because I believe I would loose an
important edge or it can be misused.
You say you have developers that work for you, which suggests you are paying
them for their efforts. Now you want something that is free to become open
sourced so you could benefit from it without doing work, saving some money?
This makes it so worrisome to open source tools, libs, applications. I have
been bitten by it numerous times.
> Please don't let me keep you from your "urgent" needs. :)
Brandon, I don't think I appreciate the discussion. You are mixing plugin
related issues with issues regarding ethics, politics. Plugin versioning is
important, RS has not addressed it fully, Björn offers an alternative and
you could provide something else of course. but you need to do some work.
Alfred
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